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♲ Nextcloud 📱☁️💻 (nextcloud@mastodon.xyz):
Hey Mastodonians, #GNUSocial citizens and others! Gear up for tens of millions of Nextcloud users spread over several 100K servers who can now join the #fediverse in just one click!

Join the global social network!
https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-introduces-social-features-joins-the-fediverse/
#mastodon #selfhosting #federation
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Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse

 
From site:
Nextcloud Social is a new app in alpha testing! It is currently developing deeper ActivityPub integration so you can connect with other federated social networks: Hubzilla, Mastodon, Pleroma, Peertube, PixelFed. Diaspora* protocol will add support for SocialHome and others! This kind of integration has been discussed many times!

https://help.nextcloud.com/t/testers-needed-nextcloud-social-federating-with-activitypub-and-diaspora-social-networks/42813
#nextcloud #network #mastodon #diaspora #federation #testing #peertube #pixelfed #hubzilla

 
From site:
Nextcloud Social is a new app in alpha testing! It is currently developing deeper ActivityPub integration so you can connect with other federated social networks: Hubzilla, Mastodon, Pleroma, Peertube, PixelFed. Diaspora* protocol will add support for SocialHome and others! This kind of integration has been discussed many times!
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/testers-needed-nextcloud-social-federating-with-activitypub-and-diaspora-social-networks/42813
#nextcloud #network #mastodon #diaspora #federation #testing #peertube #pixelfed #hubzilla

 

#Federation (also known as #Decentralisation) is when, instead of one big site, you have lots of smaller independent sites that talk to each other.


Here's a short non-technical article about why federated services are a good idea, and how all of us use them all the time (even if we don't realise it):

https://switching.social/federated-sites/

The idea of federated social media like Mastodon, Diaspora, PeerTube etc is to give users more control over their social network and personal data.

#AlternativesAtoZ
Federated Sites

 
Is support for following/communicating with OStatus sites coming to Diaspora? #ostatus #federation

 
Bild/Fotoalysonsee (Hz) wrote the following post Sun, 25 Nov 2018 00:11:04 +0100

The Mystery of the Missing & Late Cross-Platform Posts
!{support@zotadel.net}
!{disroot@hub.disroot.org}

Fellow Hubzillans, I apologize in advance for combining so many questions into one post. I'm super confused and frustrated but I don't understand cross-platform #federation well enough to know what to be frustrated with or how to tease these issues apart. Yesterday, I wanted to test #hubzilla notifications of "mentions" from multiple platforms. So, I created posts mentioning this Hubzilla account from my #diaspora, #mastodon, #friendica, and #osada accounts. In case it matters, note that my Hubzilla account has a two-way connection with each of these other accounts. Skip to the bottom for my questions.

Results of posting and mentioning from different platforms:

Diaspora: The post from @alysonsee (D*) showed up in my Hubzilla feed quickly, as did a notification of the mention. The comment I made on it from my Friendica account ( @alysonsee (Fca) ) also appeared in my Hubzilla feed and I got a notification of the mention the Fca account made of the Hz account. That's good news. What's weird is that my comment from Fca showed up only once from the perspective of D\* account and my Hz account but showed up TWICE for @BOET 's Hubzilla account--delivered once via Friendica and once via ActivityPub. In fact, a number of Hubzilla users have reported seeing some Friendica comments twice in threads lately. (Original post is here: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/bb8dfac0d17e0136d1f50218b70db60d . Hub.disroot.org's copy is here: https://hub.disroot.org/display/0b6b25a8-975b-f84d-2905-a68965841276 )

Mastodon: It took nearly a day for my post from @alysonsee to show up in my Hubzilla feed. But it eventually did, along with the reply from my Osada account, which strangely came in over ActivityPub rather than Zot. However, I got no notifications for the mentions in the original Mastodon post or the Osada comment. has recently added a fix for "mention" notifications from ActivityPub events which will likely go out in Hubzilla v4. So, the only real frustration here is that it took so fracking long for the post to arrive on hub.disroot.org--especially in comparison to posts from my canine.cloud Mastodon account (which show up within a minute) and that account is only a one-way connection (from Hz to the canine.cloud account). (Original post is here: https://mastodon.social/@alysonsee/101121457630580628 )

Friendica: It has been over a day and my post from @alysonsee (Fca) still has not shown up in my Hubzilla feed. In fact, if I look from my Hubzilla account at the "Recent Activity" on that connection over the last couple of months, the content is very spotty. Some "likes" are there but not all. Some "comments" are there but not all. The last post that came through was 2 months ago, shortly after I connected the two accounts, which means that it has missed 5 other posts. My Hubzilla clone account (on hub.libranet.de) only has one of my Fca account's posts from the last 2 months, but a different one than the one my primary Hubzilla account has. Strangely, @BOET received my Friendica test post in his Hubzilla feed straight away--in fact, faster than he gets my hub.disroot.org posts. Even my Mastodon and Osada accounts received the post and were able to comment on it. Also, I have received posts from other libranet.de (Friendica) users in my hub.disroot.org feed. So, why are the posts from my Fca account missing in my Hz feed?

Osada: My Osada post showed up in my Hubzilla feed pretty quickly but via ActivityPub. I mean, that's fine. I just would have expected Zot --> Zot would be the default. It also means that my Hz account didn't get a "mention" notification. Also, it didn't show up in my Hubzilla clone's feed. My Friendica account saw it and was able to comment on it. But that was about an hour ago and the comment still hasn't shown up in my Hubzilla feed (primary or clone).

One last tidbit: After a couple of hours of trying these different combos, hub.disroot.org went down for at least 12 hours. (I went to bed and so stopped trying until morning.)

So, to recap:
(1) Why do comments from Friendica show up twice in threads (delivered once via Friendica and once via ActivityPub)? (I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that these comments are coming from users on an Fca instance running the dev branch implementation of ActivityPub. Tagging @Michael Vogel because I think that's his area. )
(2) Why did my mastodon.social post take nearly a day to arrive on hub.disroot.org? Is that a hub.disroot.org problem or a mastodon.social problem?
(3) On a related note, why does it take about 24 hours for my hub.disroot.org Hubzilla posts to be delivered to @BOET ? Is that a hub.disroot.org problem or a nexxt.social problem?
(4) Why can other Hubzilla users get my libranet.de Friendica posts and my hub.disroot.org Hz account can see others' libranet.de Fca posts but my hub.disroot.com Hz account can't see my libranet.de Fca posts?
(5) If my Hubzilla primary and clone accounts can receive one post from a Friendica connection, then why don't they get all of them?
(6) On a related note, if my Hubzilla clone can receive one post from a one-way Mastodon connection, then why doesn't it get all of them? Or, for that matter, why doesn't it get the posts from a two-way connection on a different Mastodon instance?
(7) Why does my Hubzilla account get posts from Osada via ActivityPub rather than Zot?
(8) How many of these behaviors could be related to my primary Hubzilla instance being at v3.6.1?

 
When I look at my Friendica statistics about the fediverse and federation, play a little with the numbers of
#Friendica, #diaspora , #red, #hubzilla, #GNUSocial , #PostActiv #StatusNet, #Mastodon, #Pleroma, #socialhome, #ganggo and additional from the-federation.info #Misskey #Osada

my server sees over 4000 servers and around 2.600.000 accounts.

But there are accounts and servers my server and the-federation.info don't see.

My guess how bit the #federation and #fediverse is around
Accounts: 3.500.000
Servers : 5.000


What is your guess?

 

This Week in Matrix 2018-11-30 | Matrix


https://matrix.org/blog/2018/11/30/this-week-in-matrix-2018-11-30/

https://the-federation.info gets a mention. Now #Matrix servers also listed 💪
This Week in Matrix 2018-11-30

#Fediverse #Federation

 




I thought of trying to fit in the logos of all the federation software on this drawing I made three years ago. (You can find the high resolution file here).

Diaspora and Friendica is already there - I have Hubzilla, Mastodon, Gsocial... and then I can't remember if there are others? Anyone who can?

(G+ might also soon be obsolete so what can that be substituted with? Smapchat maybe?

#theFederation #federation #diaspora #hubzilla #Friendica #Mastodon #gsocial #art #mywork #drawing #krita

 

The Mystery of the Missing & Late Cross-Platform Posts


!{support@zotadel.net}
!{disroot@hub.disroot.org}

Fellow Hubzillans, I apologize in advance for combining so many questions into one post. I'm super confused and frustrated but I don't understand cross-platform #federation well enough to know what to be frustrated with or how to tease these issues apart. Yesterday, I wanted to test #hubzilla notifications of "mentions" from multiple platforms. So, I created posts mentioning this Hubzilla account from my #diaspora, #mastodon, #friendica, and #osada accounts. In case it matters, note that my Hubzilla account has a two-way connection with each of these other accounts. Skip to the bottom for my questions.

Results of posting and mentioning from different platforms:

Diaspora: The post from @Alyson showed up in my Hubzilla feed quickly, as did a notification of the mention. The comment I made on it from my Friendica account ( @alysonsee (Fca) ) also appeared in my Hubzilla feed and I got a notification of the mention the Fca account made of the Hz account. That's good news. What's weird is that my comment from Fca showed up only once from the perspective of D\* account and my Hz account but showed up TWICE for @boet 's Hubzilla account--delivered once via Friendica and once via ActivityPub. In fact, a number of Hubzilla users have reported seeing some Friendica comments twice in threads lately. (Original post is here: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/bb8dfac0d17e0136d1f50218b70db60d . Hub.disroot.org's copy is here: https://hub.disroot.org/display/0b6b25a8-975b-f84d-2905-a68965841276 )

Mastodon: It took nearly a day for my post from @alysonsee to show up in my Hubzilla feed. But it eventually did, along with the reply from my Osada account, which strangely came in over ActivityPub rather than Zot. However, I got no notifications for the mentions in the original Mastodon post or the Osada comment. has recently added a fix for "mention" notifications from ActivityPub events which will likely go out in Hubzilla v4. So, the only real frustration here is that it took so fracking long for the post to arrive on hub.disroot.org--especially in comparison to posts from my canine.cloud Mastodon account (which show up within a minute) and that account is only a one-way connection (from Hz to the canine.cloud account). (Original post is here: https://mastodon.social/@alysonsee/101121457630580628 )

Friendica: It has been over a day and my post from @alysonsee (Fca) still has not shown up in my Hubzilla feed. In fact, if I look from my Hubzilla account at the "Recent Activity" on that connection over the last couple of months, the content is very spotty. Some "likes" are there but not all. Some "comments" are there but not all. The last post that came through was 2 months ago, shortly after I connected the two accounts, which means that it has missed 5 other posts. My Hubzilla clone account (on hub.libranet.de) only has one of my Fca account's posts from the last 2 months, but a different one than the one my primary Hubzilla account has. Strangely, @boet received my Friendica test post in his Hubzilla feed straight away--in fact, faster than he gets my hub.disroot.org posts. Even my Mastodon and Osada accounts received the post and were able to comment on it. Also, I have received posts from other libranet.de (Friendica) users in my hub.disroot.org feed. So, why are the posts from my Fca account missing in my Hz feed?

Osada: My Osada post showed up in my Hubzilla feed pretty quickly but via ActivityPub. I mean, that's fine. I just would have expected Zot --> Zot would be the default. It also means that my Hz account didn't get a "mention" notification. Also, it didn't show up in my Hubzilla clone's feed. My Friendica account saw it and was able to comment on it. But that was about an hour ago and the comment still hasn't shown up in my Hubzilla feed (primary or clone).

One last tidbit: After a couple of hours of trying these different combos, hub.disroot.org went down for at least 12 hours. (I went to bed and so stopped trying until morning.)

So, to recap:
(1) Why do comments from Friendica show up twice in threads (delivered once via Friendica and once via ActivityPub)? (I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that these comments are coming from users on an Fca instance running the dev branch implementation of ActivityPub. Tagging @Michael Vogel because I think that's his area. )
(2) Why did my mastodon.social post take nearly a day to arrive on hub.disroot.org? Is that a hub.disroot.org problem or a mastodon.social problem?
(3) On a related note, why does it take about 24 hours for my hub.disroot.org Hubzilla posts to be delivered to @boet ? Is that a hub.disroot.org problem or a nexxt.social problem?
(4) Why can other Hubzilla users get my libranet.de Friendica posts and my hub.disroot.org Hz account can see others' libranet.de Fca posts but my hub.disroot.com Hz account can't see > my

libranet.de Fca posts?
(5) If my Hubzilla primary and clone accounts can receive one post from a Friendica connection, then why don't they get all of them?
(6) On a related note, if my Hubzilla clone can receive one post from a one-way Mastodon connection, then why doesn't it get all of them? Or, for that matter, why doesn't it get the posts from a two-way connection on a different Mastodon instance?
(7) Why does my Hubzilla account get posts from Osada via ActivityPub rather than Zot?
(8) How many of these behaviors could be related to my primary Hubzilla instance being at v3.6.1?

 
Hello #Diaspora, there is a new server online, it seems to be run/frequented by some #gab people, so be careful and adjust your blocks if needed.
URL is social.nobodyhasthe.biz

Some swastikas and other hateful stuff being there to see if you got to community on the start page.

#Friendica, #Mastodon and #Diaspora are affected, so #Federation and #Fediverse.

 
ActivityPub support in Friendica
At this point AP implementation is still a work in progress. Although many parts already charmingly work.
ActivityPub support in Friendica
#Friendica #WeAreFamily #Fediverse #Federation #ActivityPub #AP

 

Divided Power


by David Spriggs




seen at Kraftwerk Berlin.

Formations of shape and colour are suspended in time and then extended three-dimensionally in space through the use of strata of transparent two-dimensional planes, creating a pseudo Cartesian space.

"A lot of work is doom and gloom and there is no feeling in it. [...] You can still have beauty and have conceptual meaning."


David Spriggs

#dividedpower #installation #installationart #contemporary #contemporaryart #art #exposition #berlinatonal #berlinatonal2017 #kraftwerkberlin #davidspriggs #federation #inspiration #relate
Artwork

 
Dear friend of #hubzilla,

I am still new to the #federation and I am still learning, I am really interested in hubzilla however the first time I tried I felt quite confused and I quickly closed my account.

But now it has been a while that I am testing #diaspora and #friendica and I had also time to learn more about hubzilla as well.

So I would like to try again with hubzilla and I need #help in order to find a good #hub to start. I am quite convinced to have selected a wrong one the first time but this time I want select the right one.

Thus any #suggestion on how finding the #best hub for your needs is absolutely welcome!

Thanks in advance! 🍺

 
♲ hoergen@horche.demkontinuum.de:
Kurz-Tutorial - Friendica: Blocken - Einklappen und unsichtbar machen

#friendica #FriendicaTipps #friendicatips #Friendicatorial #federation #fediverse #howto #screencast

 

Frage: Wie erkenne ich als normaler Diaspora Nutzer ob auf meinen Pod die Nutzung von Relay-Servern aktiviert ist?


An sich sollen ja die Diaspora-Server (Pods) öffentliche Server untereinander weiterleiten. Da es dabei sehr davon abhängt wie viele Accounts auf einen Pod sind und wie innerhalb des Diaspora-Netzes vernetzt sind wurden die Relay-Server installiert, deren Nutzung aber von den Betreibern der Diaspora Server soweit ich weiß explizit aktiviert werden muss. Meine Frage ist nun wie ich als normaler Benutzer erkenne ob diese Funktion auf einen Pod aktiviert ist oder nicht?

Hintergrund dieser Frage ist ein kleiner Austausch via PN über meinen Account @Rabenvogel auf nerdpol.ch bei welchen ich vor 12 Tagen den ersten und bisher einzigen öffentlichen Beitrag eingestellt habe, welcher jedoch bis heute auf verschiedenen Pods auf denen ich Accounts habe nicht sichtbar ist.

Tags: #de #frage #diaspora #öffentliche-beiträge #relay-server #federation #sichtbarkeit #2018-11-12

 
Neue besser, der Podcast Folge: Pleroma #S01E05
Das freie dezentrale soziale Netzwerk Pleroma macht den Anfang in unserer Kategorie "Twitter-ähnliche" Netzwerke. Oder wie man sie eigentlich nennen sollte "Microblogging" Netzwerke. Zu Gast ist lain,der Pleroma erfunden hat und kontinuierlich mit anderen zusammen weiterentwickelt

https://besser.demkontinuum.de/2018/11/pleroma-s01e05 #pleroma #Fediverse #Federation #social networks #Erlang #Elixir #decentralize #DecentralizeIT #WeareFamily #FLOSS #OSS #Mastodon #Android #iOS

 
Neue Statistik von horche.demkontinuum.de.
Wir haben die 2,5 Mio Fediverse Konten überschritten. Wann sehen wir den 400sten Friendica Server? ;))

Momentan kennt dieser Knoten 3645 Knoten mit insgesamt 2551391 registrierten Nutzern, die die folgenden Plattformen verwenden:

    Friendica (374/13756)
    diaspora (272/656066)
    red (7/91)
    hubzilla (241/5308)
    GNU Social (178/10586)
    StatusNet (9/46)
    Mastodon (2252/1860505)
    Pleroma (308/4089)
    socialhome (3/794)
    ganggo (1/150)

#Friendica #WeAreFamily #Fediverse #Federation #Statistic

 
Neue besser, der Podcast Folge: Pleroma #S01E05
Das freie dezentrale soziale Netzwerk Pleroma macht den Anfang in unserer Kategorie "Twitter-ähnliche" Netzwerke. Oder wie man sie eigentlich nennen sollte "Microblogging" Netzwerke. Zu Gast ist lain,der Pleroma erfunden hat und kontinuierlich mit anderen zusammen weiterentwickelt

https://besser.demkontinuum.de/2018/11/pleroma-s01e05 #pleroma #Fediverse #Federation #social networks #Erlang #Elixir #decentralize #DecentralizeIT #WeareFamily #FLOSS #OSS #Mastodon #Android #iOS

 

Neue besser, der Podcast Folge: Pleroma #S01E05


Das freie dezentrale soziale Netzwerk Pleroma macht den Anfang in unserer Kategorie "Twitter-ähnliche" Netzwerke. Oder wie man sie eigentlich nennen sollte "Microblogging" Netzwerke. Zu Gast ist lain,der Pleroma erfunden hat und kontinuierlich mit anderen zusammen weiterentwickelt

https://besser.demkontinuum.de/2018/11/pleroma-s01e05 #pleroma #Fediverse #Federation #social networks #Erlang #Elixir #decentralize #DecentralizeIT #WeareFamily #FLOSS #OSS #Mastodon #Android #iOS

 
In case you missed it, there's a non-technical explanation of federation/decentralisation on switching.social:

https://switching.social/federated-sites/

It's aimed at people who have no prior knowledge. If you know someone who is confused by how a decentralised platform works (for example Diaspora compared to Facebook), you might want to send them this link.

#Decentralisation #Decentralization #Federation #FederatedNetworks #Fediverse
Federated Sites

 
#hubzilla #federation #following

when i thought my #odyssey across social networks -- federated of course -- was over i found that i'd messed up things by following D* contacts from different incarnations of my hubzilla identity, on different hubs. bleh...

means i had to create another channel, a different identity on hubz which, of course, has no contacts anymore. i really appreciate the trouble some of you have taken by following me this far, from here to there and somewhere else.

the "me" i'm posting from now, phani00 @ diasp.org will remain, so not everything is lost, but my new alter-ego at hubzilla, phani @ hub.phanisvara.com, a.k.a. phani (Hubzilla), is going to add most of you to his/my contact list again. i'll be able to follow you even without you adding me back -- as long as your posts are public.

therefore my request to those of you who switched to limited posting: please do add me back. otherwise i won't be able to see what you say :-(

 
Leider nur ein deutscher Artikel, aber gut und sehr informativ geschrieben finde ich Bild/Foto

#german #Conversations #federation #android #messenger

 
Leider nur ein deutscher Artikel, aber gut und sehr informativ geschrieben finde ich Bild/Foto

#german #Conversations #federation #android #messenger

 

Zap and Osada do one thing (social networking) and do it well.


i just saw this comment made in a support forum thread recently:
Zap and Osada do one thing (social networking) and do it well.

Use Osada if you want a really good ActivityPub server, and use Zap if you want or need nomadic identity and much stronger privacy than the fediverse can offer.

Select one or the other. You can't have it all. That actually doesn't work - and there isn't any way to make it work.

Zap will always be the smaller network, because people will always give up their privacy to follow the herd and be where their friends are.

Use Hubzilla if you actually know what a 'platform' is and want to build something great (decentralised communities and cities with shoppes and businesses that all respect your freedom) rather than than just waste your life in idle chit-chat.
#OSADA, #ZAP, #zot5 and #zot6 have been popping up a lot lately, in relation to #hubzilla, and i' have been wondering about their connection and respective place in #federation and #fediverse. this is a vision i can happily live with :smile:

 
Friends and followers,

I'm going to spend a little time on my Friendica account so that I can better help Federation newbies navigate the user interfaces and features of the various platforms. (I'm already very familiar with Diaspora and Hubzilla, as those have been, in turn, my primary home for some months.) I'm also going to start beefing up the connections on my Hubzilla clone. (I want to experiment with swapping the primary and the clone see what I can learn from that too.)

So, if you follow me here, please also follow me on @Alyson See (Friendica). The more people I can interact with there, the more I can learn about navigating the features. And if you get a connection request from that account or from alysonsee@hub.libranet.de, please add me back and put me in whichever aspects/privacy groups you have for this account. You can tell the difference between my various alysonsee accounts based on the picture. I'll see about adding a D\*, Hz, Fca to the channel names to help differentiate too.

Thanks for helping me help others!

\#federation #friendica #hubzilla #diaspora #n00bie

 

Questions for Hubzilla users


I do have a HubZilla account ( @Trevor Schadt ) that I'm trying out, because Hubzilla and Friendica seem to have the most in common, and again, let's learn as much as we can about the different aspects of this space before making any final decisions.

However, once again, there are things I can see here that I can't see there, and I'm wondering if I'm just missing them. So, Hubzilla users, please help!

1) In F'ca, my saved hashtag searches automatically get added to my "network" stream. In HZ, that doesn't seem to be the case. Am I missing the way that you do that?
2) I know that you can migrate an account from one HZ hub to another, but if I were to decide to change my "active" account from F'ca to HZ, does anyone know if it's possible to import my postings (even just the public ones) from F'ca to HZ? Or would I have to start over?

Thanks!

#Friendica #hubzilla #Federation #try-before-you-buy #account #migration #how-to #gplusrefrugee

 
Leute! Lasst dieses mehrfach Folgen von diversen Accounts. Das NERVT!
#newhere #fediverse #federation

 
Ok guys and @Eric Buijs

I believe I have [again to kill myself](https://dia.so/2uV 😅

Now I created and #hubzilla account, this social network seems pretty cool indeed however is totally not intuitive, I created a post but I am not even sure if it was issued somewhere else but my "home page". I mean after several hours I started to understand that I haven't understood nothing, also because a [post on medium](https://dia.so/2uU confused me a lot . Isn't actually true that Hubzilla can connect with #friendica and #diaspora. I mean is not seamlessly like Friendica does with Diaspora. You need to stay on a hub that has the extensions that allow the connections with others protocols, for example the hub where I created my hubzillaaccount doesn't have neither of those; and there are even several limitations about the interoperability between the protocols: for example you can't use Diaspora as source.

If I want to connect with other protocols I must change hub, fortunately Hubzilla has a feature called nomadic identity which allows you to clone your account on any hub available on the grid thus, eventually, I may find the hub which support the #federation as well as the #fediverse but you can't stream them by the way.

Really Hubzilla is great but I am concerned that is not a good source of info, maybe I have to reconsider to give to Friendica another chance...

 
Ende des Hubzilla Experiments
Ende des Hubzilla Experiments
Nachdem ich jetzt einige Tage mit Hubzilla herum gespielt habe um ein wenig die mannigfaltigen Möglichkeiten auszuloten, breche ich dieses Experiment ab. Ziel war vor allen eine feinere Granulierung meiner eigenen Beiträge und der weitergesagten Beiträge zu erreichen, wobei ich bei meinen Kontakten vor allen Leute die Diaspora nutzen habe. Das ist durchaus möglich, jedoch ist es darüber hinaus äußerst frustrierend wenn bei Hubzilla zahllose Möglichkeiten hat, aber das meiste durch die Federation und den Unterschiedlichen Funktionsumfang von Diaspora nicht nutzbar ist.
Momentan sehe ich somit in Hubzilla für mich keine Alternative zu Diaspora. Mal schauen was sich sonst so für Lösungen anbieten.
Tags: #de #hubzilla #experiment #abbruch #federation #funktionsumfang #frustration #ravenbird #2018-10-30

 

Ende des Hubzilla Experiments


Nachdem ich jetzt einige Tage mit Hubzilla herum gespielt habe um ein wenig die mannigfaltigen Möglichkeiten auszuloten, breche ich dieses Experiment ab. Ziel war vor allen eine feinere Granulierung meiner eigenen Beiträge und der weitergesagten Beiträge zu erreichen, wobei ich bei meinen Kontakten vor allen Leute die Diaspora nutzen habe. Das ist durchaus möglich, jedoch ist es darüber hinaus äußerst frustrierend wenn bei Hubzilla zahllose Möglichkeiten hat, aber das meiste durch die Federation und den Unterschiedlichen Funktionsumfang von Diaspora nicht nutzbar ist.

Momentan sehe ich somit in Hubzilla für mich keine Alternative zu Diaspora. Mal schauen was sich sonst so für Lösungen anbieten.

Tags: #de #hubzilla #experiment #abbruch #federation #funktionsumfang #frustration #ravenbird #2018-10-30

 

"The Electric House"... = me + node installation


Testing one two, eins zwo. Let's go! Hey #Fediverse. #federation #friendica #busterkeaton #theelectrichouse #film #art #silentfilm

Bild/Foto

 

Sorry if my posts appear twice! =/

The #podmin of #Pluspora has decided to #shadowban my account, so I have to #mirror my posts and you could sometimes see the same post twice.




#Shadowbanning is pretty much against the idea of the #Federation, since the #pod owner now decides what you are allowed to see, instead of leaving you in #control yourself. But such is #life. :-(


#Diaspora #censorship #FreeSpeech

 
Has somebody 400 friendica nodes? ;)

Friendica - Federation Statistic

Actually this friendica node knows 2.534.753 registered accounts, with the following platforms

    Friendica (371/13636)
    diaspora (264/661542)
    red (8/92)
    hubzilla (230/4746)
    GNU Social (171/10505)
    StatusNet (9/46)
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    Pleroma (288/3601)
    socialhome (3/767)
    ganggo (1/147) 


#federation #fediverse #Friendica #Statistic

 
Oh Man... I killed myself but I am still alive... I had to close my brand new #friendica account...
  • First reason: even if I read thousand of articles I am still doing confusion between the #federation and the #fediverse.
  • second reason: I was reading my own posts in both social, too crazy;
  • third reason: I think that a lamp stack is too slow for managing a social network.
The adaptation is not easy by the way I will get a chance to #hubzilla, I have almost tested all the alternatives available but #diaspora still continue to be my favorite.

 
Ich hab noch gar nicht Tach gesagt O.o Tach übrigens! Und welcome to the #federation \o/

 

An honest question for Diaspora users


I haven't created a Diaspora account, so I don't know what's available on that platform versus this one. But in my search as a #gplusrefugee I'd like to have all the information feasible. So.

It seems that the choice of which "facet" of the Federation (Diaspora, Friendica, Hubzilla, Mastodon, etc.) one inhabits depends mostly on the features available in that particular instantiation. Some of that might depend on the culture of the individual node -- I admit that I've almost completely ignored the "Local Community" functionality -- but with the ability to connect with anyone anywhere in the overall Fed, that seems like a secondary concern at best.

Friendica seems to have some solid advantages over Diaspora, namely:
- Forums (equivalent to G+ Communities)
- The ability to edit posts and comments
- Threaded comments
- The ability to talk to more other platforms
So, for Diaspora users: why are you using Diaspora? What's "better" about that platform than Friendica that I'm missing? Thanks!

#question #Federation

 

Gedanken eine GPlusRefugees zum Umstieg


Fast glaube ich, dass bei mir der Punkt des Turnarounds erreicht ist: Wenn ich vergleiche, wie viel Zeit ich mittlerweile auf Fediverse/Federation Plattformen verbringe, um Neues zu lernen, und wie selten ich noch auf Google+, meiner "alten Heimat" bin, dann ging das schneller als ich es mir vorgestellt habe. Hier ein paar (bewusst und gerne überspitzte) Gründe:
  • Der Vertrauensverlust: Warum noch Zeit auf einer Plattform verbringen, die "dem Tode geweiht" ist? Google Takeout ist vielleicht eine gute Idee, ein nettes Projekt, das irgendein engagiertes Team aus Google Mitarbeitern mal ins Leben gerufen hat - womöglich auf Druck von Datenschutzbestimmungen... Aber der eigentliche Nutzen bleibt hinter den Erwartungen weit zurück. Und ich kann mir kaum vorstellen, dass der Teilaspekt eines in Ungnade gefallenen Produkts von den zweifellos vorhandenen Bugs befreit werden wird, zumindest nicht zeitnah.
    • Datensicherung, am besten komplett und bitte fehlerfrei
    • Möglichkeit der weiteren Verwendung / eines Re-Imports meiner Daten
  • Die Geschichte der Titanic wiederholt sich allem Anschein nach. Waren anfangs die Communities, welche sich mit dem bevorstehenden Exodus beschäftigten und versuchten, gute Alternativen zu finden, mit Testläufen beschäftigt, füllen sich die Streams zusehends mit weinerlichen Abschieds-Botschaften oder dem Bedauern, dass dort doch alles so schön war, und aber auch gar nichts an die ach so geliebte Plattform heranreichen wird. Besonders im englischsprachigen Umfeld ist die Vergötterung schon fast bizarr.
  • "Keine App, keine Alternative für uns" Einige Leute haben verlernt (oder überhaupt jemals gewusst?), dass es ein Internet außerhalb von Googe gibt: URL's werden direkt in die Google Suchmaske (mobil: Google App) getippt. Der Unterschied zwischen E-Mail und GMail scheint nicht mehr auflösbar zu sein. Dass die meisten Plattformen heutzutage nach dem Mobile First Credo gestaltet werden, ist unerheblich, denn im Browser (natürlich von Google: Chrome für Desktop oder Smartphone) ruft kein Mensch mehr auf, ist ja auch sowas von Neunziger!
  • Wie, dezentrale, verteilte oder föderierte Netzwerke? Und wo finde ich dann all meine Buddies? Recht einfach: Dort, wo der Herdentrieb die meisten hingeführt hat. Genaue Zahlen kenne ich nicht, aber die Leute bei MeWe reiben sich wohl die Hände über einen massiven Zulauf. Dass viele (Zusatz-)Leistungen kostenpflichtig sind und sich zu einem Betrag aufaddieren dürften, der dem Abo einer G Suite entsprechen dürfte (Speicher > 8GB, verschlüsselte Chats nach 30 Tagen Testphase etc.), wird vielen erst mit der Zeit übel aufstoßen.
  • Pluspora ist jetzt mein neues Netzwerk, da sind viele andere hingegangen" Eigentlich ein Pluspunkt fürs Fediverse, aber wie das auf Google+ gepusht wurde, zeugt einfach nur von technisch lückenhafter Information. Hier darf sich die Diaspora* Community gerne mal an die eigenen Nase fassen und bei den überrollten Pod-Betreibern von Pluspora* entschuldigen. Sollte Pluspora* wegen des enormen Zulaufs die Registrierung schließen müssen oder Performance-Probleme bekommen, dann wegen der fehlenden Kommunikation nach außen, dass ein einzelner Pod nicht ein abgekapseltes Netzwerk, sondern nur einen kleinen Teil des gesamten Netzwerks darstellt. Geschweige denn, dass Kommunikation auch noch zu anderen Lösungen wie Friendica, Hubzilla, GNU social etc. pp. zulässt. Freilich wird darauf hingewiesen, dass theoretisch jeder einen eigenen Server (Pod, Node, Instanz, ...) aufbauen kann, aber das schreckt vielleicht eher ab als es zur Nutzung der bislang vorhandenen Infrastruktur beiträgt, in der sich ein paar Server eher langweilen.
  • "Humor" und Spam Nach dem ersten Ansturm der Hilfsbereiten und Technik-Orientierten überwiegen seit Neuestem gefühlt die off-topic Beiträge. Wie es sich für eine ansehnliche Reichweite eines Social Media Beitrags gehört, werden die Sammelstellen der Wechselwilligen (auch Google+ Communities genannt) nun mit Bildchen überschwemmt, die entweder Text enthalten, der im Posting nicht wiederholt wird (vielen Dank sagen alle, die auf Zugänglichkeit angewiesen sind) oder am besten gleich mit GIFs. ~~Signal to Noise ftw~~.
Bald werde ich mich dran machen, noch weitere Google Produkte durch FOSS Lösungen zu ersetzen, als Startpunkt finde ich diesen (englischsprachigen) Artikel auf Restore Privacy ganz brauchbar.

Es gibt noch weitere Gründe, doch vier sollen erst einmal reichen. Und okay, viel Energie werde ich in Google+ nicht mehr investieren. Aber es gibt auch Sachen, die mich an föderierten Netzwerken, wie sie aktuell in Form von diaspora, friendica, hubzilla und Konsorten bestehen, stören. Es liegt mir fern, "ins eigene Nest zu machen", bevor ich mich hier restlos gut auskenne. Die folgenden Punkte sollen einfach als Anregung dienen, Aufklärungsarbeit zu promoten und NeuHier Kandidat*innen bei der richtigen Entscheidung zu unterstützen.
  • (Zu?) Viele Auswahlmöglichkeiten: Schaut man sich die Liste auf podupti.me an, findet ein versierter Nutzer vielleicht die Kriterien, nach denen man einen Server auswählen mag. Sicherheitsrelevante Kriterien oder die Serverstandort (Datenschutz-Bestimmungen?) werden allerdings höchsten an anderer Stelle thematisiert. Bequemlichkeit und Herdentrieb überwiegen bei der eher uninformierten Auswahl irgendeines Pods. Und dann noch die Namensgebung: Friendica Nodes, Diaspora Pods, Instanzen, Server, ja wat den nu? Dass alle ihre eigene Buchstaben-Suppe kochen können, ist nicht unbedingt hilfreich.
  • Uneinheitliche Protokolle - wer kann überhaupt mit wem sprechen? Multiplikatoren wie die "Besser - der Podcast" Crew geben sich alle Mühe, zum Beispiel mit einer aufschlussreichen Matrix Klarheit zu schaffen und grundlegende Fragen zu beantworten:
Die Farben zeigen lediglich an, ob ein Projekt in der Lage ist mit allen, oder nur mit einem Teil der anderen Projekte zu kommunizieren. Die Schattierungen sind zur besseren Orientierung in den Zeilen da.

Grün = kann mit allen Projekten kommunizieren
Gelb = kann nur mit einem Teil der Projekte kommunizieren
Rot = keine Kommunikation zwischen diesen Netzwerken möglich

Es gibt 9x9 "Kreuzungs-Möglichkeiten", in Worten: einundachtzig. Gut, seit Erstellung der verlinkten Matrix ist noch AP, also das W3C AcivityPub Protokoll hinzugekommen, was die Konnektivität erhöht, aber die gelben bzw. roten Bereiche herrschen doch noch ziemlich vor. Und mal ehrlich: Welcher Nutzer liest Spezifikationen vom W3C Konsortium, um sich für das "richtige" Netzwerk zu entscheiden?
  • Dezentrale Dokumentation: Bei allem Charme, welchen die Idee eines föderierten/verteilten Netzwerks hat: Wenn Hilfestellung und Dokumentation an verschiedenen Orten zusammengesucht werden muss und dann nicht stringent in Muttersprachen zur Verfügung steht, erschwert das die Entscheidung.
    • Ich kann mir vorstellen, bei der Übersetzung mitzuwirken, allein weil ich dann besser zurecht komme, sollte ich mal meinen eigenen Server hochziehen wollen, doch GitHub, GitLab, Wikis etc. wenden sich doch eher an technisch versierte Beitragende als an Normalnutzer*innen.
    • Schön wäre, wenn von jeder Server-Installation aus zwei, maximal drei Links zu zentral gepflegten Hilfeseiten gehen:
      • plattform-bezogene Hilfe für Nutzer
      • plattform-bezogene Hilfe für Entwickler, Beitragende und Server-Betreiber
      • plattform-übergreifende Infos (Konnektivität, Features, Auswahlkriterien)
  • (Mögliche) Anonymität der Server-Betreiber: Dieses Thema diskutiere ich nicht als Erster, doch bin ich schon daran interessiert, wer "meine Daten" verwaltet...
    • Musste man nicht sogar früher dem Herrn Zuckerberg folgen, sobald man sich auf FB angemeldet hatte? Meinen Podmin zumindest vorgeschlagen zu bekommen, fände ich nett.
    • Lasst mich meinetwegen "anonym" bleiben, wenn ich meinen eigenen Server alleine betreibe. Ruft jedoch meinen Klarnamen und die Kontaktdaten verbindlich wie überprüfbar ab, sobald ich diesen Server auch anderen zur Verfügung stelle.
  • Reifegrad von...bis: Besonders auf Mobilgeräten fallen mir Unterschiede zwischen den Plattformen auf. Aus diesem Grund habe ich mich vorerst für diaspora* entschieden und gegen friendica, weil das Gefälle zwischen Desktop- und Mobil-Version dort besonders ins Auge stach. Hubzilla finde ich fast noch am aufgeräumtesten, aber das habe ich mir noch nicht genau genug angesehen. Bei den Theme- oder API-Entwicklern sollte sich bald herumsprechen, dass mittlerweile ein Großteil der Social Media Nutzung mobil stattfindet.
Mein RL hat bislang verhindert, noch mehr zu stöbern und zu lesen. Aber ich muss unbedingt auch loswerden, was mir bisher besonders gut gefällt:
- Abwechslung: Hier gibt es fast nichts, was es nicht gibt
- Community und Hilfsbereitschaft, "der gute Ton"
- Keine Raketenwissenschaft: Wem egal ist, auf welchem Server er sich registriert, hat mit der eigentlichen Bedienung kaum Probleme zu erwarten
- Formatierte Beiträge, Markdown ftw!, wenn auch nicht auf allen Plattformen (vs. BBCode)
- Reduzierung aufs Wesentliche
- Intelligente Detaillösungen: Hashtags erwachen zum Leben, u.v.a.m.
- Work In Progress: Die Community gestaltet das "Produkt" mit

Soviel für heute. Danke fürs Lesen, danke fürs Diskutieren.

#fediverse #federation #gplusrefugee #olaftestet #diaspora #friendica #hubzilla #gnusocial #gedanken #kritk #vorschlag #community #foss
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Why am I getting friend requests from people who never liked any of my posts, never commented or otherwise engaged with me in a discussion? What am I missing here?
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#personal #federation

 
New public instance
Hi,

just to let you know: I put up a new Friendica node (or is it pod?) over here at https://less.re .
It's open for registrations and well powered with SSD storage six vCPU cores and 16 GB RAM.
So if you happen to get asked where to open up anan account - here's yet another option.

!Friendica Support


#Friendica #WeAreFamily #Fediverse #Federation #decentralizeIT

 
Incidentally, I have an old iPhone 5, I have searched the App Store and didn't find anything related to diaspora, pluspora or the #federation. Is there an app for iOS 10 for any of these pods ? I'm still learning about the layout of this network of many networks. Thank you 🌹Mia #gplusrefugee

 

#ThanksGoogle


I remember when #Diaspora was in alpha, and I finally got my invite. I spent a lot of time there, basically ignoring all other platforms for numerous reason, but primarily because I loved the idea of a decentralized social network. Privacy issues were huge for me as well, and so Diaspora just seemed like the perfect solution.

Over the next few years, the population seemed to dwindle a bit, and I decided to take a small break from it. That “small break” turned into several years, with me personally returning occasionally to see how things were going. It still looked a bit bleak.

Now, I’m sure there may be a few people that don’t *like* the influx of #gplusrefugees, and likely they are **very** few. But I, for one, and thrilled to have new users join the #federation. I joined #Friendica just to be able to see users from every platform interact with one another, and it’s been great seeing so many new people and new posts.

In summary, #ThanksGoogle for being terrible. You’ve brought some cool people into the neighborhood.

 
Hey there social media hosting people and developers working on any of the #Fediverse systems!

Is there anyone of you at the Chaos Communication Congress in Leipzig this year right after Christmas? Is there anyone interested to have a meeting there?

Just some exchange, we would need some people to moderate the event, but basically some meetup to exchange information and get to know other players in the field.
"Someone" could then register a "talk" or "meetup" for the upcoming congress, I'd say a duration of about 1.5 to 2 hours and maybe 60+ people can be expected, assuming there is many #webmasters or #developers among the visitors at the #35C3.

Any #devs and #webmaster of the following systems, or any that I might have missed that are using #ActivityPup and can communicate with the others, please comment here if you like the idea!
#Friendica #Diaspora #red #Hubzilla #GnuSocial #StatusNet #Mastodon #Pleroma #Socialhome #Ganggo

Let me know if you have any questions.
@utzer
#35c3 #fediverse #federation

 
Update is out for https://podupti.me/

Mostly some UI updates to the filters and such, some change in colours and some bug fixes.

Release notes: https://git.feneas.org/diasporg/Poduptime/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

Always looking for PHP coders &&&& Designers for UI work for the project!

#diaspora #podmin #thefederation #podmins #poduptime #federation #hubzilla #friendica